Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama in the General?

This is a serious question. The last 4 weeks have been pretty brutal around here.

As the race gets heated, it's no secret that this site has taken a decidedly pro-Hillary and anti-Obama stance. DailyKos has seemed to do the opposite.

If Obama is, in fact, as bad as he's been painted and if he is as under-qualified as Hillary says and he is all talk and no action AND if he becomes the Democratic nominee, the question is this:

Will you vote for him? I want honesty, people.


Poll
If Obama is the candidate, will you vote for him in the General Election
No, I will stay home.
No, I will vote for John McCain.
No, I will vote for another candidate.
No, I will write-in Hillary Clinton.
Yes, though I won't feel good about it.
Yes, I will vote for the Democrat.
Yes, I don't care about the current in-fighting.
Yes, of course, I support Obama.

Votes: 82
Results : Vote Link : Polls

Display:


Re: General Election (2.00 / 2)

He won't be the nominee, so it doesn't matter.


I'm United Methodist. I already have a Messiah.
by KnowVox on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:03:37 PM EST

These kind of diaries with (2.00 / 2)

hidden insults are boring, whether it asks Obama supporters about Clinton or vice versa.

I'll vote for the Democratic nominee and I really don't care whether its Clinton or Obama.  Both are very close on the issues and both are quite mediocre on the issues.  Neither will bring real change and each is better than McCain.


by TomP on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:05:46 PM EST

Re: These kind of diaries with (2.00 / 2)

No insult was intended, hidden or otherwise. I am honestly curious.


by not Brit on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:07:45 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Results right now (none / 0)

with 70+ votes:
14% actually support Obama.
Of the 86% Clinton supporters:
31% would vote Obama in November
13% would write-in Clinton's name
8% would vote for a third party candidate
33% (!) would vote for McCain. Note that this is more than the number who would vote for Obama.
And 15% would stay home

Compare this to national statistics in which something like 70%+ supporters of either candidate would happily vote for the other one in November.


John McCain
by MILiberal on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 05:57:46 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Will you vote (2.00 / 2)

for Hillary In the GE?


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by kevin22262 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:06:48 PM EST

Re: Will you vote (none / 0)

Why wouldn't I?


by not Brit on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:08:10 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Then why (2.00 / 1)

Do you ask this of Hillary supporters?


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by kevin22262 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:47:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Then why (none / 0)

Asking Obama supporters over at DailyKos is my next step.


by not Brit on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:56:59 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I bet I know the answer (none / 0)

from the dkos crowd.


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by kevin22262 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:18:44 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Someone already did this (2.00 / 1)

He put two polls up, one at DKos, one at MyDD.

I think that ~70% of Kossacks said they would vote for Clinton, and ~60% of MyDDers said they would vote for Obama. In any case, the number of Kossacks was around 10% higher.

I also remember that many of the Kossacks who said they wouldn't support Clinton said they would vote for Nader, while many of the MyDDers who wouldn't support Obama switched their support to McCain (or simply stayed home) instead.


John McCain
by MILiberal on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:45:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Then why (none / 0)

asking the dkos people will just get you flamed.

anything that isn't explicitly pro-obama will get you called a racist, etc.

that's why i've come over here.


"this stuff makes prozac look like a decaf latte"
by mostlygood on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 05:09:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Then why (none / 0)

I already did a few weeks ago.  Most will vote for Clinton. Some will vote for Nader.  Only 3 or 4 out of hundreds said they'd vote for McCain.


by Drummond on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 05:19:26 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Will you vote (1.50 / 2)

I'd have to think long and hard about her endorsements of McCain if she were the nominee.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:15:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Will you vote (none / 0)

Think long and hard about Roe and the continuation of the Iraq war. Honestly, I understand your anger, but the choice is easy when you take those things into account.
Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:20:43 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Will you vote (1.00 / 2)

I will not take consideration of the SCOUTS into account.

I'm a middle aged white male, so why should I? Clinton obviously didn't care about those things when she endorsed McCain over Obama not once, but twice.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:42:53 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You would be (2.00 / 2)

a fool.

ROE is not the only deal.  

Do you really know what the Supreme Court does?


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by kevin22262 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:45:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: You would be (none / 0)

I know precisely what the SCOTUS does and again, I WILL NOT TAKE THE SCOTUS INTO ACCOUNT IF HILLARY IS THE NOMINEE!

She didn't take it into account when she endorsed McCain over Obama twice, so why should I?


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:59:48 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You lie again (2.00 / 1)

She never endorsed mccain.


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by kevin22262 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:16:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]

You lie again (1.00 / 1)

She endorsed him.

Twice.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:23:39 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Will you vote (2.00 / 2)

Agree with Kevin.

And that's horrid, anyway, to think only of yourself to the detriment of women everywhere. Does that mean I should vote McCain if Obama gets the nomination because I'm not in the military? I mean, what the hell do I care if the troops come home, right? Doesn't affect me personally so I guess it's cool if I just let them stay over there and die. No big deal. Gotta stand up for my principles, after all.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:02:05 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Will you vote (none / 0)

I don't give a fflying flip.

If the nominee is Hillary Clinton, she's alkready endorsed McCain.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:25:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Will you vote (none / 0)

Good to know you're selfish enough to happily damn the entire country just to prove your misguided point. Stellar. Really. Well, while you and the sniveling college kids pitch petty little hissy fits, the people who value their country will take the moral high road and vote for the Democrat, regardless of who it is.

And yeah, yeah, yeah, "She won't be the nominee, so I won't have to make that decision." We've heard it.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 08:12:19 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Lucky for you, she didn't do that! (2.00 / 1)

Once you figure out that she was complimenting a single positive feature of McCain and of course will endorse Obama over McCain, I'm sure you'll happily vote for Hillary if she is the nominee.


We can no longer afford to worship the god of hate or bow before the altar of retaliation. Martin Luther King Jr.
by fairleft on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:18:25 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Lucky for you, she didn't do that! (none / 0)

She'll never be the nominee so I'll never have to make that decision.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:24:13 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Will you vote (none / 0)

Heck, life is hard enough for me, so it really wouldn't matter if John McCain was president. The way I see it--my life couldn't get too much harder economically, although like Hillary I possess a fighting spirit.


by Check077 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 05:30:01 PM EST
[ Parent ]

UGH! (2.00 / 2)

Would you please stop LIEING. She did NOT endorse mccain! No matter how much you say it or spin it. It is a LIE.


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by kevin22262 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:46:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: UGH! (none / 0)

How would you characterize her comments, then?


by NewOaklandDem on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:55:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: UGH! (2.00 / 3)

same as I'd characterize Obama's comments that Republicans have been the party of ideas for the last 10-15 years -- as a stupid, counter-productive praising of the other side  to take a dig at your opponent and try to win an election.  

Neither constitute an endorsement except in bizarro spin land, but I have the intellectual honesty to decry both.  Do you?


by dcg2 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:00:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: UGH! (none / 0)

She acknowlegeded he had expertise in ONE area.  That is not an endorsement.


by ocli on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:09:02 PM EST
[ Parent ]

she was complimenting a single positive feature (none / 0)

of McCain and of course will/would endorse Obama over McCain.

Let's try: "Bush Jr. is a good-looking guy." That doesn't mean I'd ever vote for the blood-stained bastard.


We can no longer afford to worship the god of hate or bow before the altar of retaliation. Martin Luther King Jr.
by fairleft on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:20:21 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: UGH! (1.50 / 2)

She endorsed him twice within the space of a few days.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:00:16 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: UGH! (2.00 / 1)

"I think Ronald Reagan changed the trajectory of America in a way that, you know, Richard Nixon did not, and in a way that Bill Clinton did not. He put us on a fundamentally different path, because the country was ready for it. I think they felt like, you know, with all the excesses of the '60s and the '70s, you know, government had grown and grown, but there wasn't much sense of accountability in terms of how it was operating, and I think people just tapped into -- he tapped into what people were already feeling, which is we want clarity, we want optimism, we want a return to that sense of dynamism, and, and, you know, entrepreneurship that had been missing."

Sen. Barack Obama


"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Harry S Truman
by Tennessean on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:12:18 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: UGH! (2.00 / 1)

And not a word of that was false.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:13:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Sheer Lunacy (2.00 / 1)

Not a word of that is false? Are you kidding me?

Reagan presided over two terms of disaster:

Iran-Contra--selling drugs and arms to supply a secret mercenary army in Nicaragua and selling arms to the Ayatollahs; Union-busting/Air Traffic Controllers; Economic recession; Two wars of choice; huge increases in military spending; increased political power of the Christian Conservatives in the "Moral Majority"; and divisive racial policies.

What was "transformative" about that administration!? The word "transformative" implies he changed something. That is a laundry list of every Republican president since Eisenhower!

The only thing "transformative" is that Reagan LIED, and then "transformed" himself right back into a typical Republican.

That is what Obama meant when he said it: And, that is what Obama will do if he's elected. Transform himself into a Republican.

The GOP loved it; it was their own propaganda. They were eating it up, laughing gleefully over at Grover's office.

Get real. Have you been living on another planet? I'm old enough to remember


"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Harry S Truman
by Tennessean on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:55:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Will you vote (2.00 / 3)

While I'm not going to pile and and TR you also, it's going to keep happening if you keep using the magic word for the day "endorse".

That is a fucking lie, and I'm sick of hearing it.


No politician ever lost an election because he underestimated the intelligence of the American public. - PT Barnum, paraphrased...
by jarhead5536 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:19:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Will you vote (none / 0)

It's not a lie.

It's what happened.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:25:35 PM EST
[ Parent ]

I AM A Democrat (2.00 / 1)

what do you think?


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by kevin22262 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:07:13 PM EST

Re: Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama in (2.00 / 1)

sure.

I like Mccain but once he starts talking about strict constructionist judges that like turns to fear.


Educated in a small town Taught to fear Jesus in a small town Used to daydream in that small town Another born romantic that's me.
by lori on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:10:02 PM EST

Re: Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama (none / 0)

If he manages to become the nominee, will you stay home?


by not Brit on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:12:55 PM EST

Re: Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama in (none / 0)

For those people voting McCain or staying home - would it change your mind if Hillary enthusiastically endorse Obama, saying, "I threw everything I had at him, and he came out ahead. I admire and respect him, I am voting for him, and I ask my supporters to do likewise. He is a great candidate, and will be great for America."

How about if she were his VP?


by mattw on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:13:46 PM EST

Reversing the roles (none / 0)

IF Hillary won and Obama endorsed her in a similar fashion, I'd end p holding my nose and casting the damned vote for her.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:16:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama in (2.00 / 3)

That is exactly what she will do if she doesn't get the nomination. Clinton is a hard-core partisan Democrat with unwavering support for the party and Democratic values. She consistently emphasizes that we have to elect Democrats.


by LakersFan on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:20:15 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama in (none / 0)

That doesn't fly with me after she endorsed McCain over her Democratic opponent, not once but twice!


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:45:55 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama in (2.00 / 2)

Stop repeating this lie. Find a quote where she "endorsed" him, not some absurd twisting of her words into something she never said. She will never endorse any Republican.


by LakersFan on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:52:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama in (none / 0)

She endorsed him twice. Plain and simple. Just ebcause it makes her look like a cross between Zell Miller and Joe Lieberman doesn't mean it didn't happen.


Bill Foster would agree, Barack Obama has coat tails.
by Walt Starr on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:55:04 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama in (2.00 / 3)

At this point, I'm not going to troll rate you, but you are clearly spamming.  You actually got someone to respond to you, and instead of providing the quote where she says she endorses him or supports him, you just keep repeating the same bogus charge.

So please stop spamming or at least respond to someone who decides to engage you with something approaching evidence.  


by dcg2 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:06:00 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama in (2.00 / 1)

Where's the quote? You keep saying this, but show me your proof. Otherwise you're just making stuff up.


by LakersFan on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:06:14 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama in (2.00 / 1)

For the love of god, saying someone has expertise in ONE area is not an endorsement.


by ocli on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:10:58 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama in (none / 0)

Waltstarr, it seems that we all will be agreeing on one thing: McCain as President for 2008!!! It seems that he will be the compromise candidate...


by Check077 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 05:33:11 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Problem is that Obama is not (2.00 / 1)

as hard-core a Democrat as Hillary is. Just wish he'd fire inept 'free marketeer' Austan Goolsbee and make real leftists feel a little better.


We can no longer afford to worship the god of hate or bow before the altar of retaliation. Martin Luther King Jr.
by fairleft on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:23:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Three Supreme Court Picks (2.00 / 1)

If John McCain selects three more "conservative" justices we won't recognize this country in ten years.

The primary reason I support Hillary now (though I'd certainly vote for Obama in the general) is because I think she has the best chance to beat McCain. Obama has not be tested in anything like the right wing media attack storm that awaits any Domocratic nominee.


by MediaFreeze on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:14:28 PM EST

One can never tell about SC justices (none / 0)

Souter
Stevens
Blackman
Warren
and, sometimes, O'Connor

All Republicans picked by Republican presidents

We also should watch Kennedy.  Will he move a little more to the center now with the appointments of Roberts and Alito.


by lombard on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 05:56:42 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: One can never tell about SC justices (none / 0)

Doesn't matter. Risky gamble. You don't gamble with the SC. There's too much at stake.
Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 08:18:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: One can never tell about SC justices (none / 0)

at your peril....


by MediaFreeze on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 11:51:34 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Will you vote for Obama in the General? (none / 0)

Obama isn't a Democrat.  He's an Oblah-mican.


by Sensible on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:17:13 PM EST

Re: Will you vote for Obama in the General? (none / 0)

Very sensible. And you sound like a Republican troll.


by marcotom on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 05:38:28 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Insight about Obama supporters (2.00 / 2)

Your "diary" sure demonstrated a lot about the twisted world of Obama propagandists.

On the Obama front, he's been attacked on everything from NAFTA to the "monster" quote.

So now when a member of the Obama campaign attacks Clinton and calls her a monster, it is an "attack" on Obama? Wow, that is a truly amazing reinterpretation of events.

On the Hillary front, she has been losing races and bleeding super-delegates.

Hillary hasn't been losing races, Obama has. It sounds like you might be suffering from amnesia and can't recall anything that happened after March 3.


by LakersFan on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:17:28 PM EST

Re: Insight about Obama supporters (2.00 / 3)

Bingo. His staff committs an ugly personal attack and he's being "attacked" for it?


by Mayor McCheese on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:23:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Insight about Obama supporters (none / 0)

I wasn't trying to twist anything. In fact, I was deliberately trying to play it safe. For Obama, I used two currently recommended posts here at MyDD. For Clinton, I was referring to the string of lost races in February and super-delegate count mentioned by Jerome.

If it came off wrong, I apologize. I will try to find a way to reword it.


by not Brit on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:29:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Insight about Obama supporters (2.00 / 2)

Nice backtracking, but the point is that as an Obama supporter, you're cherry picking and interpreting things in such a distorted, slanted manner that you don't even recognize it (or you're being dishonest about it).


by LakersFan on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:42:33 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Insight about Obama supporters (none / 0)

Please help. I want this to be as fair as possible. I welcome suggestions for rewording?

I recognize that my personal support makes be biased (this is human nature), but I am looking for honest answers and do not wish to mischaracterize the opinions presented at MyDD.


by not Brit on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:02:41 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Insight about Obama supporters (2.00 / 1)

I don't think you should reword it. Your wording is the way you view things, and the way you view things is enlightening to Clinton supporters.


by LakersFan on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:12:12 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: Insight about Obama supporters (2.00 / 2)

Count me in the camp that thinks is this diary is fairly inflammatory on its own because of course we Democrats will vote for the nominee, except for a few loonies.

But if you are trying to address why Hillary supporters are so bitter about Obama I think you have to write about his entire campaign against her has been one sustained character attack (from "say or do anything to win" to "race-baiting" to "if she can't control her own house, how can she control the white house" to "new politics").  What I think most particularly galls Hillary's supporters is that even while she's been hit with this tough character attack, including the race-baiting charges that represent nuclear war in a Democratic primary, the narrative constantly gets spread that Hillary is the one being negative and that Obama is just responding.

I think that notion is probably the one you want to be exploring, rather than the thing about Obama being attacked for "moster" and Hillary losing races.


by dcg2 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:15:07 PM EST
[ Parent ]

step one: ask both sides if they'll support other (2.00 / 1)

guy/gal. That's easy to do. Then don't characterize recent events at all. Just say you're concerned about the recent tone of the campaign and honestly want to know.


We can no longer afford to worship the god of hate or bow before the altar of retaliation. Martin Luther King Jr.
by fairleft on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:26:23 PM EST
[ Parent ]

YES!!! (2.00 / 0)

Three reasons in particular:

1) Supreme Court. I'd rather not have to hear about any women suffering through a proverbial coup de grāce via a coathanger in a back alley.

2) Iraq: no more. Out. Now. (Oh, and let's not forget McCain's motto: "Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb IRAN."

3) The efficiency with which Obama has run his campaign has been impressive, even if I didn't always agree with his tactics. If nothing else, I'm confident he'll get things done and surround himself with competent people.

Give Hillary supporters a little credit, for god's sake.

Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:17:39 PM EST

this is the worst time to ask this question (none / 0)

I keep going back and forth on this issue, but at the end of the day I will vote for the Democratic nominee.

As much as I dislike Hillary personally, if I had a daughter I can only imagine what it would be like for her to see a female president. The "change" and "hope" :) it would bring to the women's movement is the one redeeming quality that I can point to if she won.


by highgrade on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:19:54 PM EST

Re: this is the worst time to ask this question (2.00 / 1)

If you have a 2-1/2 year old daughter like I do, you recognize that electing Clinton could change her perspective for her entire life. If my daughter can never remember a time before there was a female president, she might actually believe that "anyone can be president", something that girls and minorities of my era could not really believe when they were growing up. (And of course, I recognize that Obama would have the same affect for African Americans.)


by LakersFan on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:27:27 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Re: this is the worst time to ask this question (2.00 / 1)

And that is the beauty of this primary election and maybe also the reason why some supporters are so over the top sometimes. Even if Clinton does not win, she has shown that a qualified women CAN win. I happen to think that Obama would be a better POTUS, otherwise I have no problem with Clinton.


by marcotom on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 05:42:50 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Very probably (2.00 / 1)

Although not certainly. I used to answer this question "Yes" automatically. Now, I am less sure. The more I learn about Obama, the less I like him. But its too important to let the GOP, even the less radical ones like McCain stack the federal bench with right wing ideologues.


by Mayor McCheese on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:22:53 PM EST

I'm a Democrat (2.00 / 2)

so I'll vote for the Democratic nominee.

I'm hoping it's Hillary, but if it's Obama, I most certainly will cast my vote for him, and convince all my Hillary supporter friends that they should as well.

I'll scare them with two words: SUPREME COURT.


by Sieglinde on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:23:37 PM EST

Re: Clinton Supporters (none / 0)

I will vote for McCain.


by DrGary on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:37:04 PM EST

another one? (2.00 / 1)

fyi -- these diaries are getting quite old.

this is at least the 15th


vote blue in 2008
by sepulvedaj3 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:43:07 PM EST

Re: another one? (none / 0)

I hadn't seen any, I'm sorry. Do you have links to the others?


by not Brit on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:04:22 PM EST
[ Parent ]

Obama wil lose (none / 0)

This is a false question. There is no way the Supers will support Obama after he loses Pennsylvania, Michigan and Florida. No way.

Hillary will be our nominee.

So the question is: will you Obama fans support Hillary?


by moi moi on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:48:37 PM EST

Re: Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama in (2.00 / 2)

The recent Pew poll found that nearly 25% of Hillary's supporters will defect if Obama is the nominee.  While that's only a snapshot, it's a lot more scientific than any online poll like this is going to be.

I can say confidently that I will vote for Obama over McCain no matter what happens.  I will never be happy about the way he and his supporters have portrayed Hillary as a racist in the course of this primary, but if they get away with it, they get away with it.  This election is not about me, it is about whether my kids are going to have to fight John McCain's wars someday, and it's about a lot of Americans who will be better off with a Democrat as President.

I can't control what other people do, but if there's one thing we should have learned from 2000, it's that the nation cannot afford protest votes.


"Another problem we have...is that in election years we behave somewhat as primitive peoples do at the time of the full moon." --Harry Truman
by Steve M on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 03:50:41 PM EST

Anger lowers your IQ a few points... (2.00 / 1)

Forgot where I heard this from, but I agree. Supporters of the losing candidate, need to put their rage aside, look at the BIG picture (mine, the Supreme Court), hold your noses and vote for the Democrat in November. Honestly, I considered staying home (because Obama just makes me so mad!) but at what cost? Those who want positive change or at least a shot at it will be biting their noses to spite their faces should they sit this one out or vote for McCain.


by Rome890 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:21:09 PM EST

Re: We Need A Different Kind of Leader (2.00 / 2)

At this point, I don't think I will be able to vote for Barack Obama. I do not think he's ready to be president. I hope that Sen. Clinton is the nominee at the top of the ticket; but I would not object to Sen. Obama as VP. I think he needs some experience before he is qualified to lead on any issue, but particularly on foreign policy.

A president has advisors; however, a president who doesn't have a thorough knowledge of the issues, and the consequences--especially on foreign policy--is at the mercy of either morons or psychopaths.

That is what we have been through with G.W. Bush for 8 years. The Neocons have driven our foreign policy into a ditch because our president was without the experience necessary to comprehend his own ideological dependence.

I didn't vote for G.W. Bush, and I was a Republican. I voted for Al Gore. Gore had the knowledge and the experience to become a great president. I have been right about that; and my intuition tells me this is the same situation.

This country cannot afford another neophyte out in the world creating havoc. We need stability; we need economic expertise and foreign policy expertise.

In my humble opinion, Barack Obama doesn't represent "change" in leadership; he represents the same thing we've had for the past 8 years.


"I never give them hell. I just tell the truth and they think it's hell." Harry S Truman
by Tennessean on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:21:46 PM EST

Re: We Need A Different Kind of Leader (none / 0)

I feel much the same way about Hillary, I just can't trust her, and I don't know if she has any personal convictions other than doing what polls well.


by Socraticsilence on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:53:35 PM EST
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Obama (2.00 / 3)

Has to earn my vote.

I'm listening.


by Edgar08 on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:41:07 PM EST

Re: Obama (2.00 / 1)

What flavor Kool Aid do you like?


by Mayor McCheese on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:52:59 PM EST
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Re: Obama (none / 0)

LOL!
Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 08:27:21 PM EST
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Too young to vote (none / 0)

So I have to stay home either way.

I don't think this was what your poll meant, so I'll abstain to avoid skewing the results.


John McCain
by MILiberal on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:46:58 PM EST

Obama has personal responsibility for opposition (2.00 / 3)

With his repeated assertion that he was confident that Clinton supporters would fall in line behind him while Clinton couldn't be confident of retaining his supporters, he openly dared Clinton supporters not to vote for him.  A major flaw in this man's personality is his inability to, or his lack of concern for, even faking a modicum of humility. I guess that shouldn't be too surprising from a man who runs for president after only two years on the national scene.


by lombard on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 04:50:44 PM EST

Re: Obama has personal responsibility (none / 0)

This has been one of the hardest things for me to get over. The extraordinary arrogance of a statement like, "I'm confident I'll get her votes, but she probably won't get mine," is repulsive.
Even John McCain lusts after teh engels.
by sricki on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 08:24:52 PM EST
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Re: Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama in (2.00 / 1)

I have said I will CONSIDER both McCain and Obama. Obama has not convinced me he is ready to be Commander-in-Chief. I am looking for a President who is ready to fix our problems. He can win me over, but I need to "know" him before I could give him my vote.


Restore America's Strength.
by RJEvans on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 05:09:49 PM EST

Si (2.00 / 1)

Yes, I can.  Yes, I will.

But, I hope that it's Hillary.


by Si Ella Puede on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 05:33:11 PM EST

Re: Clinton Supporters: Will you vote for Obama (2.00 / 1)

Don't know what I will do. Most likely not vote. I am in a very blue district in CA. Usually there are no local Republicans on the ballot. It looks like the Obama camp is unwilling to try healing all the rifts that have come up. And am sick of being called a 'racist'. The Obama supporters have completely turned me off.


by DaleA on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 06:06:54 PM EST


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